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Sunday, November 6, 2011

You'll Never Catch Me, Copper!

Several readers have asked me to draw a chart for copper.  I've actually been working on one for a while, and finally decided to finish it tonight. 

Copper looks, in the words of the famous sheep, "Baaaaaad."  Copper seems to have topped at Cycle degree in 2011 (red "5" label, for Primary Wave 5).  If this count is correct, 2011 marks a major historical top.  To complete the top, copper seems to have put in an extended Wave V of 5, a fairly common occurence in commodities.

Copper's MACD histogram recently rose to -- and is now falling down from -- the highest reading in copper's entire history.  This strongly implies that the bulls have shot all their bullets for the time being.

Concurrent with the MACD peak, copper also appears to have completed a nested fourth wave at minuette degree.  The series of 1-2's I've labeled at the start of the decline this year could all be counted as a leading diagonal wave I at intermediate degree (blue I) -- but I honestly think these waves count much better as a nested 1-2 series.  Either structure is bearish, though, and calls for lower prices.  Due to the threat of overlap at blue waves 1 and 4 (assuming my count and labeling are correct), it appears almost certain that copper has now completed its entire wave 4 rally and should head lower.  

The chart's top panel shows the SPX.  Copper and the SPX have been strongly correlated since 2007.

Copper seems to be hinting that the stock market's
Minor Wave (2) rally ended on October 27.

The completion of red Minute iii is copper's next target, at roughly 2.79.  Percentage-wise, this target lines up very well with the current expected leg down in the stock market.  Copper's red Minute iii will likely bottom as the SPX bottoms Minute Wave i of Minor (3).

Trade above 3.75 would indicate Wave 4 is still unfolding; trade above 3.81 would call the blue 1-2-3-4 labeling into question.  Trade above 3.85 (in the near future) would be problematic for the entire count.

At the minimum, copper should ultimately revisit the 2008 lows again.  It could go a lot lower.

Please note that the little bit of sketched-in price lines I've drawn are certainly not intended to be time-accurate.  With the long-term chart, I simply didn't have room to draw it in a fashion even approaching an accurate estimation of time.

I have to tell you, after studying this chart (and several others) tonight, I am favoring my preferred bearish count in the stock market even more.

As a sidenote, some readers have asked how to bring the charts up in larger format.  To do so, simply right-click and select "Open in New Tab" (or "window").  This tiny default frame is Blogger's doing, not mine -- but that's how you can get around it.


The original article, and many more, can be found at http://PretzelCharts.blogspot.com

37 comments:

  1. u da man Pretzel, I've been super curious about copper. I'm going to have my eye on FCX now. Copper breaks below that $3.00 support and FCX is going to get scary. thanks man!

    now what about molybdenum? ha! j/k.

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  2. Do you have an opinion on silver's chart, that you may want to state (closed friday at $34.13).

    I looked at static 1year and 1month charts, and there is strong resistance in the low $35 area, and on Oct. 28 it bounced down hard off this area, so possibly it is also a longterm top same as copper, and in near-perfect synchronity with the Oct. 27 SPX's current top. So it looks to me that w(iii) already started in silver.

    Silver is my preferred market right now to short, because of it's historically powerful impulse legs downward, it almost appears to crater in it's sudden falls, which should provide way greater % profits, than a down bet on the SPX---that is, if both are about to enter w(iii), and probably sometime next week.

    Additionally, all that I read everywhere, every article I see, is bullish on gold and silver right now, and the senior mining stocks are being strong buy recommended everywhere I look, and touted as extremely cheap.

    Plus I currently cannot find even 1 negative article on the senior mining stocks, nor on gold and silver bullion, either.

    I consider all this confident highy bullish sentiment to be strongly bearish. PL or CTP, do you have an opinion on all this.

    ANON20

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  3. Very interesting, thanks Pretz.

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  4. Many thanks to your analysis!
    K wave also points to Copper when he talks about the direction of SPX.

    Will you be able to take a look at $USD:$XJY? I remember you published on $ last week. According to it, the USD is bottom and will going upward. I wonder if it's applicable to the relationship between $USD and Yen?

    Many thanks and you have a good day!

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  5. Pretz,

    Excellent post!... The copper chart agrees with my analysis that next week is a critical week where the bears must step up and start selling aggressively or else the bear counts start to come into question.

    Along these lines I just posted the results of one of my weekend studies on my blog that also suggests that next week is due or die situation for bears.

    http://ctptrader.blogspot.com/

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  6. nice article CTP. makes bears like me nervous

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  7. Mav,

    One more quickie post over at my blog again highlighting the importance of next week. It would appear next week is the bull/bear battle for all the marbles...

    http://ctptrader.blogspot.com/

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  8. Thanks for great corollary analysis to the equity markets. Your cross analysis certainly seems confirming of an impending (or currently unfolding) sharp move lower for equities.

    And unless there is a positive news event (what could THAT be at this point though??), I am now thinking that any kind of long trade that lasts past Monday is pretty much insane.

    Also: the chart you posted was rather easy for this E wave newbie to follow. Thank you.

    Trying to remain as brief and succinct as possible (and which is a re-summarization of yesterday’s much longer post), but I AM going somewhere here that is specific to an actual large trade I am likely to make:

    I personally now feel about 75% confident that we will see S&P below 1,200 well before the end of the month. And probably within the next seven trading days.

    That's about as confident as I get unless we are at an obvious (to me) market bottoming. My personal experience is that when I am ‘seventy-five percent confident’, the market moves in the direction I think it will around 90% of the time.

    I'm also of the firm belief that price discovery needs to now create the (mis)perception of max downside risk downside risk for bulls in today's trading climate. This is IMPORTANT for the bull argument and CNBC positive narrative crowd. Which will only serve to lure more bulls into the unfolding eventual trap as we head into the holidays.

    And the market can only do that by heading LOWER near term to new intermediate low that is perceived as not all that bad. And then rallying higher from there back toward 1,270 after the fall.

    Thus solidifying the perception that any decline will fall to ‘acceptably low’ levels that are not to be truly feared. And we will run back up from there anyway, so a long can just hold through it.

    The perception of downside equity risk will then have ratcheted WAY upward. And heading into a Christmas rally.

    Add to all of this: Funds had all the time in the world during the last two trading days of last week (even on low volume) to distribute and take profits from big October run up.

    They NEEDED that time above at least 1,250 after the sharp fall from the Thursday highs, which I think Pretz is absolutely right: It caught everyone unexpected.

    So a mini rally needed to be manufactured to have enough TIME to sell and take profits. There is no point in having the big October run up if you don't actually sell and profit from it. And I don't think the Street was going to allow for the possibility that it simply never happened.

    Circumstances are far different heading into next week though. The timing is perfect to sandwich a rundown in equities between now and a Christmas rally. Which will give funds at least one more chance at buying equities on the cheap to close out the year.

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  9. My working theory of price discovery at the moment is now as follows:

    We just found below below 1,220 last week for a hot second with what was really an overall positive expectations and news week. A MINOR hint of problems in Europe, which no one really believed got us there.

    So even with no one genuinely believing that the Greek deal would completely unravel, we got to 1,220 in a hurry.

    And 1,235-ish is also a place that I believe that we can ALWAYS get to on any kind of hint of less than positive developments. ANY KIND.

    So 1,235 will be where any trade I make can at least break-even. This is IMPORTANT for options trading, since I am STRONGLY considering taking a large and deep in the money (high delta, low time premium) put position with December expirations. And with an equivalent strike to S&P 1,270 (more on my calculations about what such a position would look like in a later post).

    1,240 was a false battle line between bears and bulls last week. Below 1,240 was bad news and bears ‘winning’ . Above 1,240 was bulls ‘winning’ and still in control (or at least not ‘losing’ to bears).

    I say false battle line, because I believe the 1,240 – 1,250 battle line was all about creating the perception of an upward correcting market from Tuesday’s lows so that the Street could distribute, prepare for the actual next rundown, and make believe that a fall is not impeding. And also to prop up the notions that Europe will figure things out and everything will be hunky dory.

    1,250 plus is where distribution happened and the perception that the market run up can survive Europe news / risk and the slings and arrows of bear attempts can be averted.

    But I think that’s ALL coming to an end soon. The street pros have almost certainly already positioned themselves by the end of trading on Friday for a bad next week. In fact, they'd be negligent and stupid no to have.

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  10. Oh and Pretz: Thanks for the complimentary comments regarding what I post yesterday. If I'm going to have a one-person audience, I suppose you are the place to start, though you may be the LAST person who'd benefit from anything I have to say. Ha, ha.

    Rocky: Your 'criticism' doesn't bother me a bit. And it was completely dignified. Your own personal preferences aren't anything to argue about. They are what they are.

    And no, I don't take any of it personally. I can tell the difference between someone with fundamentally benevolent intentions and someone who is consumed with an either nefarious or simply self-absorbed agenda that cares little for the costs / consequences that may be imposed upon those around them.

    And you are CLEARLY of the former description.

    And lastly, you guys have NOTHING on the way a certain very slim minority of any city’s population will utterly trash a restaurant in an online review, including mass exaggeration and simply making things up.

    That stuff rolls off of me at this point. And I DO still take well-intentioned commentary very seriously.

    My establishments enjoy very positive public perception overall and I am extremely grateful for the loyal patronage we enjoy.

    But I’ve also heard just about everything in the way of insults and innuendo already.

    So it’s not hard to parse fair and well-intentioned criticism from those who simply have their own unfortunate issues. And so what they have to say is better simply ignored than given any extended consideration.

    I probably should have followed those guidelines with Anon20, but his ulterior motives seemed rather transparent, and I am particularly good at identifying in plain English what those are.

    And Pretz is by nature so accommodating and simply NICE to everyone. Which means his energies and time can be probably be misused by those who are less well intentioned. And he'll probably shrug off backhanded comments concerning his well earned accomplishments.

    It seemed at the time a good idea to say what I didn't think he would.

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  11. Brian: long comments but I actually read through them. Also some "good" news came out of Europe with the Greek plan moving forward wry the resignation of the PM and an agreement between the two opposition leaders. What do you think of it?

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  12. I think the potential upside effects was priced into equities by Thursday. This was very much expected.

    Current futures are down very slightly.

    I think the market needs to carve out a cycle low in the next two weeks for a LOT of reasons. And that will drive price discovery more than anything else.

    Also Bears have made NO meaningful or sustained move in QUITE some time. Pretty much every short got stopped out or exited during the run up.

    And I think what most who would short the market (other than pros) are doing what most of us here are doing: biding their time and waiting for the proper entry point.

    Last week simply wasn't a good week for bears to enter. Fed Announcment, Greek resolution, G20 meeting, and market needing some more time to unload positions with the S&P holding above 1,250.f

    Also put open positions on the SPY are simply way higher at key price levels than call open positions. It's a simple proxy for what the inside money thinks will happen, though you need to cross reference it to other indicators.

    Also the intermediate-term score on Sentiment Trader is at 82 but trending downward which is what happens at the end of rally's. It peaked last Thursday.

    A score of 82 is still HIGH and extremely positive sentiment. The last time intermediate-term sentiment registered that high: Last February.

    And this is extremely high for a bear market rally in particular.

    As a general rule: when the score falls below 90, sentiment is peaking and you should expect stocks to fall.

    Lower scores mean sentiment is peaking, btw. Higher scores mean sentiment is bottoming.

    By way of reference: the intermediate-term sentiment score was 1.45 at the October 4th and 1.55 after August's waterfall declines. Those were the worst sentiment readings since the May 2010 lows.

    We have obviously moved up sharply from there. Too sharply in my opinion.

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  13. Brian,

    you mentioned futures being down slightly, but futures don't open for 5 more minutes. As to Forex which opened 55 minutes ago, the Euro is up right now from Friday's close.

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  14. Pretz:

    One question I do have that rather concerns me with respect to the equity markets: The dollar seems unable to break through obvious resistance at 77.5 on the DXY.

    I know you are rather bullish on the dollar, but what you think of the possibility of the dollar moving down for the intermediate term?

    My understanding is that a falling dollar would not support lowered equity prices.

    Any thoughts about this?

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  15. Pretz,

    Speaking of copper take a look at the opening 1 minute bar one the December copper futures. WTF was that???

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  16. sorry to burst your bubble, but the futures are up .5% right now

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  17. CTPtrader, what level can monday's high not invalidate for your cycle count? In other words, whats your ST

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  18. Mav,

    1275 SPX is the max I would expect if we rally Monday, but even if we go higher it would not invalidate my cycle projections. As noted on my blog if this is a B wave pullback off the 10/27 and it takes the form of an extended flat or a running triangle then we could conceivably see the 10/27 highs taken out marginally Monday and it still would not invalidate the cycle projection for a high 11/4 +/- 1 and then down into 11/11 +/- 1.

    What would invalidate this cycle projection is if we are making higher highs on Tuesday after 11:00.

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  19. yep, futures up...can't tell if that's a curse or an opportunity for me to put on more shorts...decisions, decisions.

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  20. I updated a paragraph in the article for additional clarity:

    "Trade above 3.75 would indicate Wave 4 is still unfolding; trade above 3.81 would call the blue 1-2-3-4 labeling into question. Trade above 3.85 (in the near future) would be problematic for the entire count."

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  21. Anon,

    As I stated on Friday, I'm not completely sold on being bearish on gold. I am only slightly favoring the view that gold has topped. The recent action in gold has bullish potential as well, IMO.

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  22. Futures returning to earth now... be interesting to see if that proposed ending diaonal in the 1-minute, posted yesterday, chart plays out.

    CTP- re: HG. lol, wtf -- is that a bad print?

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  23. "the 1-minute chart, posted yesterday..." is how that should read. Gawd I wish I could edit without deleting. :{

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  25. Brian: the dollar resistance level that concerns me is 80-81; that would be the intermediate resistance level.

    Short-term, the dollar appears to be forming an inverse head and shoulders, which is a bullish pattern. A break above the neckline of the inverse h/s imlies a move right into the 80-81 level I just mentioned.

    Please note that I did this chart in PAINT, so it's not exactly the same quality as my usual Photoshop/Stockcharts charts. But it's pretty easy to see the reverse h/s:

    http://www.screencast.com/t/9SbYIuGbXjB

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  26. *IMPLIES not imlies. I hate this HP keyboard on my new laptop sometimes. You have to really bang on it. Liked my old HP laptop better, but it developed HP Hingitis Breakitus, where the hinges that hold up the screen weaken and eventually break from all the internal heat (I've had 2 do that, btw... bought another one since I was convinced they redesigned them. Either that, or I'm a slow learner. We'll see.).

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  27. CTP, I checked the basic Bloomberg stock futures page when I wrote that. And they were down slightly at the time. I'm not logged into any of my trading accounts right currently and am on my laptop at Toulouse. My bad if I posted inaccurate news.

    An up day on Monday wouldn't trouble me in the least. If it helps to move market sentiment more delusionally upward, I don't think that hurts the bear investment theory. (This is not rooting against your open positions, Rocky)

    I'd actually rather take a position against the indexes if we are trading above 1,265. Since the S&P holding above there into mid December seems particularly unsustainable to me.

    I have read your blog, btw. My compliments. Very understandable, and I sincerely wish you success with it.

    For me to get worried about a sustained new bull cycle, I would also have to see that the dollar is falling and cannot break through resistance. And that the BKX is trending higher. A strong uptrend move by banks and financials would REALLY concern me. And that there is near-term positive headline news that will overwhelm all other factors (we just had that run with a climax this weekend, so I find that possibility rather unlikely).

    All in all: I think new intermediate lows NEED to be found. Which may not happen this week, but I do think the market will be seeking them by the end of the month. And probably prior to Thanksgiving.

    So the trade I am likely to make next is deep in the money puts with a December expiration (or in the money calls on a Bear ETF). With a low time premium and a delta above 0.85.

    And with a strike that corresponds to at least 1,270 on the S&P. Or possibly 1,280 to 1,290 if we run up toward 1,270 in the next few days.

    My expectation is that we will fall to at least 1,170 on a down move. Or at least ten to twenty points below major resistance for at least a day or two and within five to seven days of when the market starts its slide.

    I am still researching and calculating what positions I might take though. And also at what point would I get stopped out? That's going to be an important part of any trade consideration. I don't know yet. And I won't make the trade without knowing that in advance.

    I've ruled out November expirations already. Two trading weeks is simply not enough time, especially if we get another intermediate run up move (even though it seems increasingly unlikely).

    I'd hate to have to go all the way to expiration in the middle or commencement of a rundown. Man that would truly blow.

    If we get delayed in finding a new cycle bottom this week: With December expiry I'd still have five trading weeks left (a virtual trading eternity) for the market to find it's way to at least 1,235, at which point the put position trade would be around break-even, even if the remaining time premium is at zero.

    Finding below 1,235 between now and December expiration sounds like an extremely safe bet to me.

    The run of positive news we'd have to have with NO bad news episodes would have to be virtually unprecedented for us to not get there.

    And my prevailing theory is that the Street needs the runs down just as much as it needs the moves up. This includes for bull funds that would prefer to have another round of buying equities at bargain pricing before the year runs out. They do better if we find an new cycle bottom soon.

    Trying to achieve chronically higher highs is simply way too costly and expensive in today's market environment. The liquidity doesn't appear to be there. And the overall atmospherics simply don't support it.

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  28. Pretz - Another great article and analysis. You are a multitalented, multidimensional RockStar!
    I hope you are right about your copper analysis, folks here in the South are gettin' sick and tired of chaining down their AC units from the local copper bandits - heck, even heard stories about stealing water meters and plumbing pipe. Makes you think twice about going on any extended vacation!
    BTW, it's really great of you to be so accommodating to the folk's request here on your blog, when you could certainly just as easily dismiss. Keep it up, you are an excellent writer BTW and wish you the best of success.
    Now that I've blown nuff smoke up your arse, get to work on some platinum and pork belly charts for me - I need em for tomorrow! LOL

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  29. Pretz: THANK YOU. Very much. that all makes sense.

    I was looking primarily at the daily chart candlesticks. And they didn't appear reassuring. Especially the long top wick on Tuesday on the third day of the rally, which trading in the subsequent sessions did not penetrate into.

    And then the lower close on Friday had me wondering if the top is already in for the d dollar's latest cycle. Especially if the Euro improves on headline news and perception that the debt 'crisis' is under control.

    I'm an equity investor first and track movements in currencies, treasuries, PM's and the CMT mostly for cross reference. So I need help there.

    I do follow a gold and currency blog for insights into those markets, but they aren't my primary focus.

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  30. KB, thanks! :)

    Pork bellies are not something I've ever paid attention to... platinum I have. Maybe one day over a weekend, I'll get to a chart there...

    Brian, YW.

    I just posted an Apple update which looks at three degrees of trend for Apple. AAPL is one of the cleanest charts out there right now, IMO.

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  31. SPX futures (ES) in the red now.

    CTP and Anon20, when you get a moment, I'd be curious to see what you think of the ST Apple charts. I think the move there is darn-near crystal clear. Take a hard look at them and see what you think. TY

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  32. MIT economist Rudiger Dornbusch (who was a professor to the new head of the ECB, Mario Draghi), mentioned recently "The crisis takes a much longer time coming than you think, and then it happens much faster than you would have thought". I thought it is quite pertinent to the chain of discussions about when we are going to see a pullback :)

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  33. Yep, that's the truth right there, TJ. It's challenging, when you see what's going on in the world, to not think, "Okay, the market should open at fair value tomorrow... say Dow 4000 give or take."

    That's why I really try to focus on what the charts are saying, because logically I can't comprehend how the world doesn't just wake up one day and scream "GTFO now!"

    I think that why the saying "the market can remain irrational a lot longer than you can remain solvent" exists. The charts help me focus on what *is* happening, instead of what I logically believe *should* be happening.

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  34. I am sticking with silver going down, and silver stocks going down, as long as silver does not go above $37. Psychologically, gold usually trails silver in sharp down moves, as goldbugs hold on to it, for primal atavistic psychological reasons, until the last second.

    Therefore, I prefer silver in a down market, since I sense a strong complacency in silver stocks right now, which I consider a serious error.

    As an example, this morning silver tried to play tag with gold's up move (after some breaking news from Europe), and it shot up a buck, from under $34 to right under $35, where is was instantly slapped right back, to the mid $34's, where its resided for the last hour. There is major silver resistance in at $36 dollar silver, and I will hold short, until it surpasses $37, which I doubt will occur.

    I EXPECT under $30 silver soon, to coincide with the spx next strong leg down.

    Gold has major resistance at around $1800, btw, but gold has so much emotional history tied to it, that it is much harder to predict it's short term moves.

    However, I will say this: I strongly opine that $1922 double top will not be taken out for several years, and I strogly feel a retest of the low $1500's, is coming shortly, alon with the next market downturn. Which, according to CTP's cycles, should occur this week.

    Besides, 24 out of 21 professional gold/silver traders, who's opinion is tracked weekly, said their markets would be up this week. This 87% up agreement, usually means to me that the week will be down, so I bet down.

    PL, I do not follow apple, but the daily chart looks like someone is gasping it's last breaths, after it's been shot. Sort like it's dead ex-owner.

    Copper chart looks fantastic--down. China, the prime driver for the recent copper bullmarket, has it infrastruture growth is super overheated mode, plus big inflation, serious national bank problems (4 of them had to be funded recently, by the govt.), and on top of this, millionaires are disappearing from the country (to america, I guess, and those new residency visas recently approved by legislature, if they just invest half a mil in the usa, which is peanuts to them), and when these mega-rich leave china, they shut down their factories (I actually read this). So copper looks bad, chartwise, and fundamentally.

    Big Bear up ahead, in my opinion.

    (BTW, I see that buhttho pretentious ever-spewing dribble rettard briansluht continues to write harebrained stuff about me. What the fhkkk is seriously wrong with that 'great restauranteur' (HAHAHA) immbecille. I must remind him of someone that skkrewd him hard, reeel goood.)

    I have to leave for most of the day. I'll answer to what I see fit, when I return.
    ANON20

    BTW, PL, I liked the ending upward diagonal best, as a retest of the Oct. 27 high. Because if you look back to april/may 2008 double top 2nd retest of the neckline and 200day ma (before the waterfall drop), it's rejection is what finally broke the bull's back (and scared of many bears off their shorts, also).

    So your 1275 spx sounds very possible within next few days, I´d say. Because the spacing between those two neckline tests in 2008 was 14 calendar days, and we already have 11 days between Oct. 27, and today.

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  35. Errata: 21 out of 24 traders, not 24 out 21.
    ANON20
    (Aditionally, I repost again without the brainsluht paragragh (I prefer brainsluht to brianhut), in case you cannot edit, PL, and only delete. However, I had to answer back the pretentious ignorant bum, to shut his trap about me forever, or I'll continue to answer back likewise, except in my own coarser style).

    I am sticking with silver going down, and silver stocks going down, as long as silver does not go above $37. Psychologically, gold usually trails silver in sharp down moves, as goldbugs hold on to it, for primal atavistic psychological reasons, until the last second.

    Therefore, I prefer silver in a down market, since I sense a strong complacency in silver stocks right now, which I consider a serious error.

    As an example, this morning silver tried to play tag with gold's up move (after some breaking news from Europe), and it shot up a buck, from under $34 to right under $35, where is was instantly slapped right back, to the mid $34's, where its resided for the last hour. There is major silver resistance in at $36 dollar silver, and I will hold short, until it surpasses $37, which I doubt will occur.

    I expect under $30 silver soon, to coincide with the spx next strong leg down.

    Gold has major resistance at around $1800, btw, but gold has so much emotional history tied to it, that it is much harder to predict it's short term moves.

    However, I will say this: I strongly opine that $1922 double top will not be taken out for several years, and I strongly feel a retest of the low $1500's is coming shortly, along with the next market downturn. Which, according to CTP's cycles, should occur this week.

    Besides, 21 out of 24 professional gold/silver traders, who's opinion is tracked weekly, said their markets would be up this week. This 87% up agreement, usually means to me that the week will be down, so I bet down.

    PL, I do not follow apple, but the daily chart looks like someone is gasping it's last breaths, after it's been shot. Sort like it's dead ex-owner.

    Copper chart looks fantastic--down. China, the prime driver for the recent copper bullmarket, has it infrastruture growth is super overheated mode, plus big inflation, serious national bank problems (4 of them had to be funded recently, by the govt.), and on top of this, millionaires are disappearing from the country (to america, I guess, and those new residency visas recently approved by legislature, if they just invest half a mil in the usa, which is peanuts to them), and when these mega-rich leave china, they shut down or simply abandon their factories (I actually read this). So copper looks bad, chartwise, and also fundamentally.

    Big Bear up ahead, in my opinion.

    I have to leave for most of the day. I'll answer to what I see fit, when I return.
    ANON20

    BTW, PL, I liked the ending upward diagonal best, as a retest of the Oct. 27 high. Because if you look back to april/may 2008 double top 2nd retest of the neckline and 200day ma (before the waterfall drop), it's rejection is what finally broke the bull's back (and scared of many bears off their shorts, also).

    So your 1275 spx sounds very possible within next few days, I´d say. Because the spacing between those two neckline tests in 2008 was 14 calendar days, and we already have 11 days between Oct. 27, and today.

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  36. I just got back, 1400hour et. No response to my lengthy post above. I am done here. So enjoy your new tapeworm, idiotic diarrhea blabbermouth, yet heavy tithing, complete existential ignorant, nouveau rich, ghetto fried chicken, ever brainpuking, 'brianhuthut', the amerikain 'geat restauranteur' (is he negro Cain's ghetto restaurant exec. director?).

    ANON20

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